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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2014.05.13 21:54:00 -
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You guys ran this change past the CSM before pushing it live right?
Right after reviewing the test server feedback?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.13 22:02:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Doc Fury wrote:You guys ran this change past the CSM before pushing it live right?
Right after reviewing the test server feedback?
My guess is that they mentioned it's supposed to help the NPE and Ripard Teg shouted everyone else down to give them the greenlight.
It's hard to laugh because that's entirely plausible. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.14 00:02:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: At this point I think we have proof positive that the UI team does not actually play the game.
That's a bingo!
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:17:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Ali Aras wrote:Think about children! If CSM did see those tooltips and let them pass in current form that means you are all idiots. I'm sorry but I cannot substitute this with another word. And clearly you don't play this game. If CSM didn't see those tooltips I ask why aren't you all here? And: what is your point of existence if you aren't consulted about a feature that will bleed eyes of EVERY FRAKKING PLAYER THAT THIS GAME STILL HAS?
Bears repeating.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.14 15:20:00 -
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Constructive criticism:
After you improve placement and etc. please tie this in to the tutorial system and/or provide a global "off" switch so that players who no longer need training wheels can go about their space business more efficiently and without unnecessary hindrance.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.14 20:10:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:For as much work as CCP put into the tooltips, you think they would have spent another 5 minutes* and put in a DAMN OFF BUTTON.
* no clue how long it would really take.... but still..
If they had built this with that option in mind in the first place (as they SHOULD have), your 5 minute guesstimate is probably not too far off.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.14 20:21:00 -
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Question/Constructive criticism
CCP recently increased the cycle time for omnis and the reason given was to reduce load/ticks on the EVE server, this was to be especially helpful during fleet engagements.
Do all these new tooltips create any additional or new server load (offsetting any gains from omnis), especially during fleet engagements?
Did you even test this new feature under fleet-type conditions?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.14 20:58:00 -
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mechtech wrote:Doc Fury wrote: Do all these new tooltips which also need to update the UI frequently create any new server load (offsetting any gains from changing omnis), and does this increase especially during fleet engagements? .
The tooltip information is pulled from the client, not from the server. It adds nothing to server load.
That would make sense, as anything on grid had to be loaded already for overview, et; al.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:48:00 -
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CCP Delegate Zero wrote:stuff
There's a distinct lack of an "off" switch mentioned in your reply. Shame on you for not addressing it at all.
It seems you guys have selective reading comprehension or you simply don't give a toss what your customers think even when they are almost unanimously telling you they expect to be able to turn this OFF.
Is this the kind of development process we can continue to expect from CCP's new "improved" development cycle? The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:46:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Doc Fury wrote:CCP Delegate Zero wrote:stuff
There's a distinct lack of an "off" switch mentioned in your reply. Shame on you for not addressing it at all. It seems you guys have selective reading comprehension or you simply don't give a toss what your customers think even when they are almost unanimously telling you they expect to be able to turn this OFF. Is this the kind of development process we can continue to expect from CCP's new "improved" development cycle? Well he did mention it, but in a distinctly unsatisfactory manner: CCP Delegate Zero wrote:Enough people have asked about an off switch that I think I have to give a straight answer to this: a blanket off switch is not a strong contender as a configuration option.
Thanks for that, my eyes are failing me it seems. Guess I should just go outside and give-up on this.
Sadly, CCP has not learned anything the last few years. They don't seem to grasp that giving customers options is a good thing even when it may bruise a few egos a bit, this is especially troubling when those same customers are demanding choice. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.16 14:02:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:We do keep an eye on things.
And when there's dev active in a thread, it makes sense to let them deal with things, rather than sticking our oar in? (as long as they are responsive, which Delegate Zero appears to have been.)
You guys unanimously blessed these changes before they went live?
Possible answers are Yes or No.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.16 16:58:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote: We definitely underestimated the impact of making changes to this piece of UI but we are extremely committed to finding an implementation that works for everyone.
Thanks again
How about letting the players decide what works best for them by having an "on" or "off" option?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.16 18:39:00 -
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Saw this posted in chat, it comically and quite accurately conveys how many are viewing this.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:03:00 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote: An option to turn off tool-tips is fine, but removing them entirely? No, they're useful for newer players who are still learning the UI and gameplay.
I don't think anyone here has seriously promoted removing tooltips entirely, however turning them off would be welcome there's no reason to force unnecessary clutter and complication on everyone especially when this "feature" obviously wasn't out of alpha, and clearly was not completely thought out.
Futzing-about trying to tweak this on the live server is truly laughable, I sure hope this latest experience causes CCP to really rethink their present QA practices given their new release schedule.
/who am I kidding... The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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